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Miles, I think you know that the message on the main page has been up long enough. It violates our Terms of Use and if you revert my change again, I will strip your administrator right and ban you for a period of one week. You are free to replace content on your own talk page as you have done and there are plenty of other clues on the wiki that the community has forked. --daNASCAT
(help forum | blog) 19:19, March 23, 2011 (UTC)
- Block him for a week for what? If it's edit warring, you're guilty too and thus you would be deserving of a block as well. You can't ban people on this Wiki without providing proper reasoning. Stop abusing your power. Omega Tyrant (talk) 19:43, March 23, 2011 (UTC)
- Please explain in what way the notice regarding the fork in any way violates the Terms of Use. I have reviewed it thoroughly and can find no issue. In the meanwhile, I would hazard against reverting due to "no consensus". Additionally, please refrain from threatening me with rights removals unnecessarily. Miles (talk) 21:52, March 24, 2011 (UTC)
- The previously agreed upon doctrine of forking has dictated that communities are allowed to mention the wiki has forked and include a link to a forum or blog post explaining the decision. No direct links to competing sit::es are allowed on the main page nor is implying that editing this wiki is not allowed or in vain. Also, there is a "statue of limitations" in a sense that dictates when both wikis have gotten their feet back on the ground after the forking, there is no longer a need to inform people of the fork in such a visible location. As your NIWA site would never extend us such a courtesy, I fail to see why we should. --daNASCAT
(help forum | blog) 01:18, March 25, 2011 (UTC)
- The previously agreed upon doctrine of forking has dictated that communities are allowed to mention the wiki has forked and include a link to a forum or blog post explaining the decision. No direct links to competing sit::es are allowed on the main page nor is implying that editing this wiki is not allowed or in vain. Also, there is a "statue of limitations" in a sense that dictates when both wikis have gotten their feet back on the ground after the forking, there is no longer a need to inform people of the fork in such a visible location. As your NIWA site would never extend us such a courtesy, I fail to see why we should. --daNASCAT
- "Back on your feet" - Members of the community are adequately informed of the fork, the new site and have had ample time to make up their mind about which wiki they will choose to remain active on. --daNASCAT
(help forum | blog) 13:15, March 25, 2011 (UTC)
- daNASCAT, you have still to explain in what way the notice violates the Wikia Terms of Use as you had previously claimed. Miles (talk) 15:27, March 25, 2011 (UTC)
- Please explain in what way the notice regarding the fork in any way violates the Terms of Use. I have reviewed it thoroughly and can find no issue. In the meanwhile, I would hazard against reverting due to "no consensus". Additionally, please refrain from threatening me with rights removals unnecessarily. Miles (talk) 21:52, March 24, 2011 (UTC)
- If you are looking for exact verbage from the Terms of Use: "Use the Service in any unlawful manner or in any other manner which could damage, impair, or overburden the site" in combination with "Post, upload, transmit, share, or store unsolicited or unauthorized advertising, solicitations, "spam", or any other type of unauthorized solicitation" [in this case, unauthorized advertising of other competitive sites] and "Only use the services in a manner consistent with these Terms of Use", which indicates that just because an item is not implicitly chronicled in the Terms of Use, it is not necessarily excluded. --daNASCAT
(help forum | blog) 16:53, March 25, 2011 (UTC)
- What you are censoring is not a "link to another website", or anything, nor will it harm the wiki. The message simply links the viewer to a page explaining why a large percentage of the former community has moved on to the NIWA smashwiki. This does not harm the site in any way, unless you are calling "stating the facts" as "harming the wiki". Omega Tyrant is correct; you are abusing your power to censor any opposition to wikia. Why can't you guys leave us alone to govern this place? I demand that you give Omega Tyrant his Administratorship back, as you still have not given an example of him "abusing his power. Mr. Anon (talk) 05:46, March 27, 2011 (UTC)
- An interesting thing to notice would be that the ToS don't want us to do stuff that could overburden the site. We are actually pointing people away from this old place, so that Wikia doesn't need to be overloaded with a dead/dying wiki. We understand you guys don't want links to external sites, but you got to understand that we decided to move to a different hosting site, and that we want to give people information on the Smash series, not compete on having a good wiki. Besides, we're changing because of you. Amongst other things, you guys enforced a new layout, which over 50% of the users disliked, and never once considered changing back. You wish to keep this wikia here, abandoned, dying, being flooded with spam, and above all, wasting space, instead of removing it. The only purpose of the notice is to take people away from this abandoned place. We wouldn't need to do that if this was deleted. {EspyoT} 10:43, March 28, 2011 (UTC)
- They don't care about this wiki. All they care about is making more money. Mr. Anon (talk) 04:31, April 1, 2011 (UTC)
- I moved to the NIWA wiki because of this kind of things.As far as I know, Omega Tyrant was one, if not the most active user of this wiki, and was (and still is) worried for the good of it.What daNASCAT is doing is, obviously, an abuse of power. Doomolish (talk) 23:36, April 3, 2011 (UTC)
- If you are looking for exact verbage from the Terms of Use: "Use the Service in any unlawful manner or in any other manner which could damage, impair, or overburden the site" in combination with "Post, upload, transmit, share, or store unsolicited or unauthorized advertising, solicitations, "spam", or any other type of unauthorized solicitation" [in this case, unauthorized advertising of other competitive sites] and "Only use the services in a manner consistent with these Terms of Use", which indicates that just because an item is not implicitly chronicled in the Terms of Use, it is not necessarily excluded. --daNASCAT