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[edit] Delete tags PART 2

I only tagged them because I thought they ought to be deleted. I provided justification. I am also familiar with the policy. Most of the articles I suggested for deletion fell under category of 'Trivial and does not contribute much to the Smash Bros community.' If you have a disagreement, that's fine. They don't need to be deleted; I really don't care. I just thought they ought to have been. I understand I tagged a good many pages, but just because I tagged many pages doesn't make my reason for doing so invalid; they could all have deserved it. On what account were they not deleted? Semicolon (talk) 21:46, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

Stuff like smasher pages are fine, even if they are stubs or orphaned. They're still valid and people may still go back to edit them. Really, deletions are a last resort, and done only if nothing can be done to fix or improve them. FyreNWater - (TalkContributions ) 07:31, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
Understood, but a 1-line smasher page that hasn't been edited in over a year adds nothing to the Wiki. At that point it's pretty clear that nothing is going to be done with it, that the smasher of concern is not well known, and so it is just taking up space. Surely you agree something should be done with it under those conditions? It is my opinion that deletion is the most appropriate action. Have you a better suggestion? Semicolon (talk) 14:05, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
I know they're not helping, but they're not really hurting, either. I guess if space starts to become an issue, the orphaned pages of unknown people can go up for deletion. FyreNWater - (TalkContributions ) 09:43, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Where's my welcome?

I did improve several articles I find (only because I played SSBB at the GameStop store), but are there any admins in here? What happened to my welcome intro? MetaCracken (talk) 22:14, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

That's an odd way of saying hi. Welcomes can come from anyone, aren't mandatory, and show up if a user sees a new person and decides to welcome them. Instead of demanding a welcome, why not go and chat in the forums and make friends? FyreNWater - (TalkContributions ) 07:31, 28 August 2008 (UTC) :lol i don;t nknow where to put this but thz. ps make a FAQ for noobs like me ;)--Tarrant1400 (talk) 21:39, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

[edit] This time I mean it...

Look, I'm sorry. I'm sure by now you think of me as the lowest most disgusting trash in the world, but I'm sorry. I mean it this time; I'm not going to turn around and flame at any other user for as long as I am on this wiki.

You along with the other SysOps do your jobs very well and I know you have no time to deal with foolish children. As I am apologizing to you, I will do the same to other users that I flamed at, excluding a certain user named Ike.

The reason for my out-of-control behavior is because my Wii was taken from me, and I did nothing wrong. Hearing you say damned (excuse my language) made me think that you thought you were better than others, but you were only expressing your frustration towards the users that don't really know any better.

I want you to delete the parts of my talk page that have any profanity and the next time you see those words from me is when I'm joking around. I've already E-mailed an apology to randall, but that does not mean that I have given into him. I have my dignity.

I wrote this by logging out and using my IP address (I'm in Alabama now) so don't think that this is fraud.

--Blue Ninjakoopa 04:11, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

It's nice that you apologized, but it's hard to undo the damage that has happened. I don't know, there might be a chance you could work something out with Randal, but I can't really do anything about it. Just remember to think before you act, as it'll help prevent a lot of problems that don't need to happen. FyreNWater - (TalkContributions ) 18:31, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Trophy

OK, the event is on. We're going to need the trophy. Is there a better way to contact you so we don't have to do business in a public space? Clarinet Hawk (talk · contributions) 04:15, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

E-mail works. Silverdragon706@yahoo.com FyreNWater - (TalkContributions ) 08:22, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

[edit] OK

Yes my leige. I won't make that mistake again. --Blue Ninjakoopa (talk) 10:25, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Warning

I'm not warning you, I'm adhering one. Can I recreate the Research Facility page? --Blue Ninjakoopa (talk) 00:57, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

I don't know, use your own judgement. If it's important, make it. If it's pretty meaningless, then don't. FyreNWater - (TalkContributions ) 09:45, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

What time do you wake up in the mornin'? I was sittin' around all night wit notin' to do, lassie. --Blue Ninjakoopa (talk) 15:14, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Hey!

I was using that Dweevil picture you deleted!

I guess I'll re-upload it...Hmph. CAFINATOR Gentlemen... 05:25, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

No. It's not relevant to SSB. Go ahead and link it from somewhere else, but the images here are supposed to be for illustration purposes, not for your personal image hosting. FyreNWater - (TalkContributions ) 09:45, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
Besides, it had no copyright status. It probably would have been deleted eventually anyway.Smorekingxg456 (talk) 13:33, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Craq walk

Umm.. sorry to annoy you about this AGAIN but here's the CRAQ WALK Y46264Y (talk) 04:43, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

No, it's wavelanding. Expand on that article instead. FyreNWater - (TalkContributions ) 09:45, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
So if I put that on wavelanding and say its wavelanding in brawl then it would work.Y46264Y (talk) 23:59, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
Yes, you can add a section (if there isn't one already) about wavelanding in Brawl. However, since it already has a name, the "craq walk" doesn't belong there. It's still a personal nickname, so unless it gains popularity, it's still just "wavelanding". FyreNWater - (TalkContributions ) 19:44, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
but I can still put that vid on there right?-Y462 - </small> 17:33, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
If there isn't already a video on wavelanding in Brawl, yes. Although you need to use proper terms and note that "craq walk" is just a nickname, at least for now. FyreNWater - (TalkContributions ) 02:13, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

ok, thenY46264Y (talk) 00:29, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

[edit] WTH!

this is really starting to get annoying, I was told i can do as i want on my user page, and if i want to how of my drawings i will have my drawings god damn it. It's a User page! you know. ABOUT ME! - 64%

(Man I feel like a jerk). Well, we do have rules here. I'm pretty sure you're only supposed to have one personal picture uploaded. Cheezperson (talk) 05:58, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

[edit] I BEAT THE SYSTEM

In other words, I managed to use a photo from Piklopedia on my page. Nothing special. But, I'll need to figure out how I can center these photos as well...well, if I can, anyways. CAFINATOR Gentlemen... 08:23, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

How do you conclude that it's a good idea to walk on to a sysop's page and say "hey, I just figured out a loophole so I can keep breaking the rules! Here, let me show you and link you directly to my violation!"? Please, I beg of you, write an article or something. --RJM Talk 16:39, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
OK, so I had the right idea all along? Great! Thanks. CAFINATOR Gentlemen... 22:39, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

What do you mean by "personal images"? Tritem (talk) 14:10, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

Pictures that aren't used for illustration purposes on articles. Basically, random stuff like pics for fan characters, things you think are funny, etc. FyreNWater - (TalkContributions ) 05:56, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Principle vs. Practicum

I wouldn't allow off-site image-hosting if I were you. The issue is not bandwidth, the issue is having a plethora of more crap on the wiki and more crap on the talk pages, because if we allow it on a user page, you're damn right they'll be crying to put their images on user talk pages too and the snowball will keep on rolling. --RJM Talk 00:27, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

I think one or two on a userpage is fine. It's not going to "snowball" unless we leave everything unchecked for a long time. Don't be so strict about everything. "Firm but loving", Randall. FyreNWater - (TalkContributions ) 02:10, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
Randall was a little too firm, I'm banned right now 'cause I told a joke to him, and all of a sudden, I'm banned for three months because I was abusing other people...? I don't get it. All of done with other people as help when asked, and discuss when discussion begins. Oh, and...uhh...joke when people start turning playful. Eh. I'd mind less if I wasn't banned for 1/4 of a year. CAFINATOR Gentlemen... 03:49, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Respost

I created a portuguese version of the Smash WIki he is in construuction: pt.super-smash-bros

[edit] Simple question

Are we allowed personal images or not? Please respond on my talk page. --Blue Ninjakoopa (talk) 19:14, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

Nope. --RJM Talk 00:22, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
Really? I thought we were allowed one. Cheezperson (talk) 00:23, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

I thought somebody said if they were in smasherbeta, you could. am i wrong?Smorekingxg456 (talk) 22:11, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

A real photograph of the smasher is allowed in smasherbeta, but no banners. The same applies to crew articles. --RJM Talk 01:12, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

[edit] status change

can you give me rollback status? KP317 (talk) 21:45, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

Rita isn't a bureau, so she wouldn't be able to. Clarinet Hawk (talk · contributions) 23:43, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

[edit] FYI

There's no rule against removing warnings (or anything else, for that matter) from one's own talk page. If someone does so it just means you can assume they've read it; if you need to remember that some user got a warning somehow, use the history. --Kirby King 19:15, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

Really? I was told that removing warnings is off-limits, especially if it was for vandalism. I guess someone heard wrong as well. FyreNWater - (TalkContributions ) 22:04, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
Yeah, I've seen a number of people mention it. But there's no such rule here, and I know that Wikipedia allows you to flat out empty your talk page if you like (because, again, everything is stored in the history). --Kirby King 22:07, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
Point. I always figured it was like the person trying to hide their warnings, though. I guess I'll leave it alone next time. FyreNWater - (TalkContributions ) 22:09, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
The only problem I have is when people remove the warnings right away... Clarinet Hawk (talk · contributions) 22:25, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Merging

I would have merged the page myself, but I don't know how. I also don't know how to make change a page to a redirect. Baltro (talk) 21:30, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

Simply replace the info in the page with "#REDIRECT [[Article name here]]". Make sure the capitalization of the article works, or else you'll get a broken redirect or a double-redirect. Also, if in doubt, preview first! FyreNWater - (TalkContributions ) 22:06, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Stickers

I created a page that has all the stickers, though it looks a little messed up. I just copied them from the Dojo. User:Smorekingxg456/stickers is the page."SmoreKing-Bow down to the king.~Now what have you done? 22:30, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

Sticker has them all already, I do believe. --Shadowcrest 22:32, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
OH, ok."SmoreKing-Bow down to the king.~Now what have you done? 22:33, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Cafinator

I say his ban be shortened to a week. It's only fair. He just likes to joke and if you guys don't have a sense of humor than just try ignoring the joke. Blue Ninjakoopa Talk to me 10:30, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

I wasn't the one who banned him, so I can't really do much. I already tried reasoning, and at least it's shortened his ban. Better quit while you're ahead. FyreNWater - (TalkContributions ) 03:44, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

Sorry about that. This wiki is the only one I have ever cursed on. I have a question though: Why aren't you a bueracrat yet? You're top featured user and you've never done anything to abuse your power. Not only should you be an admin, but Kperfekt, Zmario, GalaxiaD and Oxico should at least be SysOps. They've never done anything wrong, but if you tink that they are still bad, I'll explain:

Kperfekt: He no longer insults RJM and had enough decency to call him to his proboards and come to an agreement. He's popular and people like his flash games. He's been nothing but good for the community. He also knows how to be a good admin (as founder of 4 wikis)

Zmario: We haven't heard from him, but he doesn't really see the purpose of making fun of RJM anymore. Plus he's helped out alot.

GalaxiaD: He never really flamed at anyone... ever! He's a good soul and has decided to drop his conflict with RJM. He's also created quite afew pages and has stopped vandalism.

Oxico: He's in the featured users bar (# 6). He's never flamed at anyone and is a very good person. He's also done alot for the community.

Me: Uhhhh... actually I plan on making moar help when I'm done with the Kirby, and DK wikis. I'm not gonna ask for power yet (although that would be awesome) because I'm a bueracrat on three wikis already.

As for Caffy, we still talk on the Kirby Wiki. Blue Ninjakoopa Talk to me 10:01, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

When people get banned, it's usually for a reason. I don't know, so I'm not going to get into it. As for bureaucracy, I just don't have the time for it. In case you haven't noticed, my visits to the site have been rather sporadic. I just have other stuff to deal with and think others with more time would be a better candidate. FyreNWater - (TalkContributions ) 10:12, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
Oxico is the only one I feel is a legitimate possibility as an administrator. I won't go into the others. --Sky (t · c · w) 17:30, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
(talking to Sky) KP and Zmario have scarred their chances very badly, but I (as well as others) think that GXD should be an admin just as much as O2 should. Blue Ninjakoopa Talk to me 18:49, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
ill say the order of us should go like this: wacky (jtm) & oxico, me & gxd, and THEN zmario. zmario doesnt even come here alot to much anymorez. KP317 (talk) 18:58, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Mudkip & Treecko

they are on the trophy list, im just to lazy to put down some references right now. KP317 (talk) 06:14, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

Well, those basically stay up until the sources get put up. That's kinda how it works. FyreNWater - (TalkContributions ) 06:15, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
oh, alrighty then :) KP317 (talk) 06:20, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

:::So I herd u liek mudkipz??!?! --Sky (t · c · w) 16:40, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

IMA CHARGIN' MAH LAZAAR!!! Blue Ninjakoopa Talk to me 16:42, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
I hate that meme. So much. FyreNWater - (TalkContributions ) 22:04, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

Kenji-Girl. I knew it was you. Amirite? Blue Ninjakoopa Talk to me 00:23, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
You're pretty bad at assumptions. FyreNWater - (TalkContributions ) 01:23, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
And you're pretty bad at... uhhh... wavedashing! Beat that! Blue Ninjakoopa Talk to me 22:47, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
YOUR FACE is bad at wavedashing. FyreNWater - (TalkContributions ) 22:48, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
After you've scrubbed all the floors in Hyrule, then we can talk about Wavedashing. Take her away! Blue Ninjakoopa Talk to me 22:55, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
Okay seriously, what? Is this convo going to go anywhere or should I just pretend it doesn't exist? FyreNWater - (TalkContributions ) 06:24, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
It's a YTP reference, but I'll keep that as an inside joke to me and my friends. Btw, I saw some of your vids on your profile at photobucket. You didn't kill that hummingbird did you? I happen to care for nature. Blue Ninjakoopa Talk to me 06:48, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
Holy silt, why in the world would anyone do such a thing?? I gave it water and returned it to the nest. Then I named it François. FyreNWater - (TalkContributions ) 07:42, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
That's good. Well, would you happen to know how to feed a Snake? Mines has an indent in it's belly :( Blue Ninjakoopa Talk to me 09:56, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
Convo ended due to irrelevance, randomness, and lack of interest on one half. Mainly my half. Because this is wasting my time. FyreNWater - (TalkContributions ) 04:38, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
What kind of bug crawled up your behind? Blue Ninjakoopa Talk to me 05:19, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
Go ahead, piss me off again. I dare you. FyreNWater - (TalkContributions ) 06:41, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
I never pissed you off in the first place. I advise you calm down a bit; you can't treat me how you treat your little friends in your house. Also, I think influencing a user to yell at you so you can ban them is against the rules of adminship. Tsk tsk, and you say Randall abuses his power. Blue Ninjakoopa Talk to me 20:13, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
You should learn to be more respectful and tactful. When conversations end up going on tangents of tangents, it's time to end them. Upon their end, telling someone that have a bug up their behind is utterly rude. Now seriously, stop causing trouble. FyreNWater - (TalkContributions ) 23:29, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
Whoa whoa whoa! I never commanded you to insert an insect up your behind. It's a saying that means that you have a problem. Now, I never knew you were that heartless. I see you talking to KP all the time! You seem to not like talking to me for unknown reasons, but I don't really care how low you think of me. As far as causing trouble, I'm doing the exact opposite. I used to respect you (not as much as KP loves to suck up to you) but now I actually have my respect back for C. Hawk. I was bugging him and being a troll, not realizing how hard he was working (in real life). I'm not bringing him into this, I'm just saying. And please stop striking everything! It gets kind of annoying. Now, excuse me for blowing up, but I don't really like being talked down to by someone with power over me. I'll have you know that I have teh phyre on 5 wikis. So does KP. Don't take it that I hate you (I still think you should go ahead and be Bueracrat), but I'm just telling you. Blue Ninjakoopa Talk to me 00:41, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

"YOUR FACE is bad at wavedashing" = LOL!!! *net fives fnw* KP317 (talk) 23:35, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

*throws KP out of a window* Hahaha, you phail. Blue Ninjakoopa Talk to me 00:41, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
UNCALLED FOR MAN!!! KP317 (talk) 00:43, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
*brings you back through the window* Sorry. Let's go get some bakies, bro. :) Blue Ninjakoopa Talk to me 00:46, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Ok

look, I was told to upload something of my own for a default on my userpage, so it was exactly what I did. --2koolalex (talk) 06:44, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

Profile pics = totally fine. Other random stuff = not fine. FyreNWater - (TalkContributions ) 22:03, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

[edit] koolios

you like futurama and phoenix wright too? DO YOU HAVE THE FUTURAMA GAME??? KP317 (talk) 21:51, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

Yes, no. Also, don't abuse caps nor punctuation. FyreNWater - (TalkContributions ) 04:53, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
OK ILL TRY NOT TO:,! HaHa, sorry, I had to do that. KP317 (talk) 04:54, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
Okay, you know what? You're annoying. Change that. KTHNXBAI. FyreNWater - (TalkContributions ) 04:55, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
I'm more annoying then you will EVER know. KP317 (talk) 04:59, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
That's nice, but I don't give a damn. Now stop spamming. That's a ban-able offense, you know.FyreNWater - (TalkContributions ) 05:02, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
Ouch, that hurt... I'm just gonna leave now. *puts a band-aid on dignity* KP317 (talk) 05:04, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Hi

My user-subpage (the one with my articles) lists what I've created (i.e. articles, categories). Deleted or not, they are still to be listed on that page. So yeah. --2koolalex (talk) 14:53, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

It's totally fine to list them. It's not fine to link to them. People may try and fix the broken link and remake pages that we didn't need in the first place. FyreNWater - (TalkContributions ) 23:16, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Calm down

Go here to see what I'm talking about since you think you're so smart. I happen to be an expert on the Mario series, Ms. "I'm doin' it rong"! Also, as the title of the section says, you need to calm your tone down. I'm starting see why you haven't been promoted to Bueracrat yet. (PWNT) Blue Ninjakoopa Talk to me 20:54, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

You just used a Wiki for your evidence. ZOMG BEST EVIDENCE EVAR. If anything, you should chill out Mr. "Mario Expert". Don't try so hard and don't use fanon, either. It just makes things worse. And anyway, there's no such thing as being "promoted" to a bureaucrat. People actively apply for it or they don't. FyreNWater - (TalkContributions ) 10:43, 4 October 2008 (UTC)
Fanon? You thnik this is fanon? YOU are the one who thinks the name of a cloud from the Mario series is Randall, Ms. "ZOMG BEST EVIDENCE EVAR". Take my advice, stop using memes if you get mad when you see someone else use them. Jesus Christ, woman! Blue Ninjakoopa Talk to me 15:02, 4 October 2008 (UTC)
Dude. Are you reading what I write? The nickname is Randall, that's a fact. You're trying to say it "should" be Jugem's Cloud. There's no evidence to back that. You're looking for the official name of the most trivial thing ever. Just get over it already. FyreNWater - (TalkContributions ) 22:49, 4 October 2008 (UTC)
But that's it's official name. And what do you mean I lack evidence? I gave you the freakin' link! That's all I'm trying to say. Just cool your temper. Blue Ninjakoopa Talk to me 22:59, 4 October 2008 (UTC)
The only temper here is yours. Your link was a Wiki that is fairly notorious for not citing their sources. And the official name is for another cloud, not the one that's on that level.
Now seriously, can you drop this already? FyreNWater - (TalkContributions ) 06:15, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
I'm dropping it, but I just want you to know that the cloud can be used by Lakitu. Just saying. Oh, and from what you said, I infer that you've been previously banned from Mario Wiki, perheps? Blue Ninjakoopa Talk to me 06:51, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
More jumping to conclusions. I'm on the Mario Wiki just fine and have never had problems. Aside from all sorts of unsourced info, anyway. FyreNWater - (TalkContributions ) 07:35, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
What is your User Name there? (if it's Silver Dragon or FyreNWater, plz don't rub it in and make me look stupid) Oh, and I'll try not to make this an unecessary convo. Blue Ninjakoopa Talk to me 07:42, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

[edit] You are so right

Wow. I never thought I would find someone who had noticed the unusual absence of Banjo Kazooie from Brawl. Banjo-Tooie was my favourite game growing up. And Wolf-Link/Midna would be a brilliant character, much better than Toon Link. I'm interested in your movesets for Banjo-Kazooie. Toon GanondorfTALK

Meh, it's nothing solid. Banjo-Kazooie just have attacks from the first two games: egg shooting, beak bash, rolling, beak barrage, etc. I don't really have anything for Wolf Link/Midna, but Midna's hair would be used for grabbing and there would be some sort of teleport move like Zelda/Sheik's. I don't have them mapped out or explained or anything. I just don't care that much. FyreNWater - (TalkContributions ) 22:54, 4 October 2008 (UTC)

No real proof of this, but I'm like 95% sure they weren't in because banjo-kazooie (along with rare) is now a microsoft exclusive thing. KP317 (talk) 22:55, 4 October 2008 (UTC)

No shit, Sherlock. FyreNWater - (TalkContributions ) 22:56, 4 October 2008 (UTC)

:Whoa! You need to calm that shit down! Srsly, stop flaming at everybody. Blue Ninjakoopa Talk to me 23:16, 4 October 2008 (UTC)

well then why the hell were you expecting them? KP317 (talk) 23:01, 4 October 2008 (UTC)

Guys (and girls), there's no need to explode like this. Calm down. It's not that big a deal.Toon GanondorfTALK

Everyone misunderstood my statement. The phrase "No shit, Sherlock" is used to denote how utterly obvious something is, much like one would use the phrase, "Thank you, Captain Obvious." There's a slight tone of annoyance, but nothing malignant about it. FyreNWater - (TalkContributions ) 06:17, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

All right, as long as we're not at each others throats. Toon GanondorfTALK

[edit] Article Deleted?

Hello, a couple of months ago, you deleted an article that I made on a technique called the Hyphen Smash, the reasons being "personal nickname, trivial." First off, I didn't come up with the name of that move. A lot of people call it the Hyphen Smash and know what it is, and it is a real move. This video proves that I didn't come up with the nickname, and that it exists. —Preceding unsigned comment added by ACDCGAMER (talkcontribs)

The problem wasn't that there wasn't proof, the problem was that it's trivial. A random video with 1000 views doesn't mean that the technique is valid. It's trivial until it makes it way into tournaments or is picked up by many people. Anyone can make a YouTube video, but it takes an actual solid technique to make its way into the Smash community. FyreNWater - (TalkContributions ) 22:52, 4 October 2008 (UTC)
I understand your point, but that isn't the only video that shows the Hyphen Smash. I first found it in an advanced techniques tutorial for Brawl on YouTube (you can view it here), which also taught how to do other techniques such as the Glide Cancel, the RAR, the Pivot Grab (called the "Turn-Around Grab" in the video), the Glide Toss, and the Smash-boost (called the "DLX Cancel" in the video), some of the techniques said being on SmashWiki, apparantly counting as "solid" techniques. I know it doesn't have that many more views, but in the video description, there is a link to this Smashboards thread (it's quite old, but it's 60 pages long and has quite a lot of stuff in it). I understand that the Hyphen Smash may not be useful enough to be considered a good technique to use in Brawl, but there are quite a few other techniques in the video that look useful and should be at least considered. I'm just making a suggestion, that's all! -ACDCGAMER (talk) 06:54, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
Videos still aren't really notable. I think it hits that level once the view count breaks 10k. As for the forum, I can't be bothered to go through it all. If the technique and name starts spreading across the community and shows up in tourneys and stuff, then it becomes notable. Otherwise, it's just another nickname and non-notable technique, even if it's real and people use it. FyreNWater - (TalkContributions ) 07:38, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
Ok, I see your point, even if it disappoints me. I guess I'll have to wait until someone uses some of these techniques in a useful way then! XD -ACDCGAMER (talk) 07:57, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Huh?

Hello, Silverdragon706. I'm new here, and a bit confused; you sent me a mesage which said "Please do not make pages for questions.". What page are you referring to? --68.58.123.201 13:52, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

The same happened to me!! :@ K. 69.12.204.107 15:11, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

And Me - Porkulator (look-in Wiki), I wasn't aware I did make that sort of page???

What are you talking about? I'm at the Final Fantasy Wikia, not the SSB Wikia. How could I have made a questions page? Maybe you shouldn't send that message to random IP addresses, now should you? --68.32.149.132 19:39, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

In case you haven't all noticed, you're all IP addresses. Many people can share a single address, so the message may be for someone else. If it doesn't apply, just ignore it. In fact, it'll be easiest if you just make an account so this problem doesn't happen in the future. FyreNWater - (TalkContributions ) 23:05, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Odd

it said i had new messages, but it wasnt my ip, and i see another user had the same problem69.12.204.107 01:37, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Language

Sorry about that. I was undoing that IP's edits while everyone (except Miles, who undid one edit by the same IP) was offline, at school/college, etc. I really had no idea that fruit loop could be taken to be homophobic. So yeah, sorry. MarioGalaxy {talk} 21:41, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

It's innocent enough if you don't know the context of "fruit" as slang, but it can be taken as quite offensive. Anyway, you shouldn't be calling people names, whether or not they make bad edits or vandalize. FyreNWater - (TalkContributions ) 21:48, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

Well, now that we're past the subject, I'd like to inform that an IP has just made an article called My Question about. The IP wants to know how he/she can contact admins. MarioGalaxy {talk} 21:54, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

I marked that page as spam. Zmario (talk) 22:32, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

[edit] You knew this was coming

Please note that before I start, I'm doing this not just for friends, but for my conscience. I'm also an Eagle Scout, so if you dislike my leadership advice, then don't take it, it's not really mine : )

Although your recent ban of Blue NinjaKoopa was fair, as much as he says you haven't warned him (I'm sure you have), you have to remember that different people function in different ways. We all have our pet peeves and biases. Believe me, if someone talks smack on retarded people or any religion, I'd (politely) give them a piece of my mind. Your pet peeve (or one of them) is people showing disrespect for minorities, whether it be ethnicity, sexual orientation, etc. I can relate to you on that, but when you are in a position of power, a certain amount of self control is needed when handling things like these. If I were a sysop in your position, I would have gotten on the problem (numerous users, not just BNK, language towards homosexuals) by blocking him quickly instead of giving him repeated warnings (this isn't me saying I'm better than you). Sometimes being firm is OK, you don't have to give a guy a bunch of warnings to show him that what he is doing is wrong. In the wiki's case, a short (a day or so) ban may be appropriate, but a month?

Blue NinjaKoopa means no harm to anybody. He is friends with a homosexual on this wiki, whch proves that he isn't prejudiced. He is a good contributor, an active user, and a good friend, and losing him would be a blow to the wiki. He tells you that you have a hot temper, but in reality, so does he. He may also be a little jealous of your position, but his heart is in the right place. He means no harm to anybody. Yes, his language needs improvement, but Rome wasn't built in a day. You can't expect people to change just because you want them to.

My suggestion is that an etiquette policy should be enforced. All users ought to be held responsible for their actions, but without guidelines, or rules, stuff like this will happen. Also consider shortening BNK's block to a week tops, as the current length is a little unfair if you think about it.

Please consider what I have said, but also realize that I am on your side as far as the block goes, just not the length. I hope that you will accept my opinion as I have accepted yours, and realize that we all have feelings, just different ones. Oh, and don't take this as a slap in the face, rather than a helping hand. Cheezperson I don't bite... Achievemts 01:37, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

Look, Blue Ninjakoopa was banned by you, I understand your an admin, but come'on. What did he do to you. Everyone has their own thoughts about you. They all think your a bitch. Thats why their not asking you way you banned Blue Ninjakoopa. Even if your feeling bad because the users are all hating on you doesn't mean you can just ban them. You haven't really done anything to me so I got nothing to say. Just a thought, think about it. --2koolalex (talk) 04:13, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

It wasn't just the hateful words, it was also the endless cussing at me, other people, and just total disrespect. If it was the first time that he did this, I would have given him a week. This isn't the first, nor is it the second time that he's been causing the same exact problems. If you ask me, the Wiki won't lose out on much the month that he's gone. FyreNWater - (TalkContributions ) 06:08, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

It seems like EVERYONE wants Blue back! Zmario (talk) 10:00, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

...wrong. I think perhaps a month was too long, but then, I didn't ban him. Blue's attitude has been progressively worse for a while, to the point I warned him I was sure he'd be banned if he didn't stop. He didn't stop; he was banned. For once (ZOMG!), I'm not going to even think of disputing someone's ban. --Shadowcrest 21:34, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

Has he ever apologized to you? Cheezperson {talk}stuff 00:53, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

He's apologized for things he's done, but it seems that he didn't learn anything from it. Silverdragon706/FyreNWater - (TalkContributions ) 08:43, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
Well, you can't expect him to change his personality, it's who he is. He's a good person, everyone here knows that, and you know that he means no harm. Things slip out of people's mouths (or in this case, fingers) that they don't really mean, we're all guilty of that as human. Even you (as a human) must have said some things that you're not proud of. BlueNinjaKoopa just did it at a place where he could get in trouble for it. Cheezperson {talk}stuff 01:53, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
I can expect him to change his personality. But even if I couldn't, it most certainly is reasonable to expect him to be able to control himself and restrict things from leaving his proverbial mouth that should not have. Yes, things slip. That's forgivable. But his general attitude lately has not been a "slip", it's been trollish for long enough that his ban was warranted. And whether or not Silverdragon has or has not is irrelevant to BNK. An ugly person can still call someone ugly. --Shadowcrest 02:12, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
Ugly! (jk)... How has his attitude been trollish? Cheezperson {talk}stuff 02:15, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

As long as the evidence continues to pile up, this might be a good time to reiterate my point about justifying a permanent ban. I really don't know how to make it any more obvious. --RJM Talk 01:48, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

By slowly leaving the talk page... MarioGalaxy {talk} 01:49, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

Oh no. No perma-bans. Cheezperson {talk}stuff 00:11, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

[edit] sig

Hi. I'm here to request you change your signature, because it gives no indication whatsoever of who you are or what your username is. I've recently asked a couple other users to do so, and you were brought up here. Thanks, --Shadowcrest 21:34, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

To be clear, FNW, I didn't actually expect Shadowcrest here to actually request this of you. (Now talking to Shadowcrest, sorry for doing it on your space.) I think that most people have no problem with "link-floating" or whatever one wishes to call holding the mouse above a link to see where it goes. And if you're going to do this for everyone, you should problem hit RJM too. You see how ridiculous this is? It's not a problem, and I want to stay on good terms with you, but this is one fight you're inevitably going to lose. {I'm 5280s, and I approve this message.} 21:39, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
Plenty of people put a nickname in their signature. Not like I'm impersonating someone else. If it's really confusing, I'll modify it. FyreNWater - (TalkContributions ) 22:02, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
Is this more confusing or less confusing? User formerly known as Silverdragon706 FyreNWater - (TalkContributions ) 22:08, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
More. {I'm 5280s, and I approve this message.} 22:11, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
edit conflict I'm rather well known on another wiki for sig arguments, which, while the change didn't happen, I won the discussion for, with the help of some other people. (PvX's idiocy is incomprehensible; they wouldn't acknowledge reason if it swallowed 3 of their fingers whole.) So even if I do lose, I'll go down knowing I tried.
Maybe they don't mind having to link hover. So? While it isn't that hard to rollover a sig, it shouldn't be mandatory.
The point of signatures is to immediately identify who it is that made the comment. For example, there was a user on PvX who tried to argue that Tab McPiplup = User:Ibreaktoilets. Ololwut? The intent of the signature isn't to show off - it's to let others identify you without trouble. If they have to turn their head upside down, install 60+ language packs, learn greek, or pull out a magnifying glass, it causes trouble. Using alternate names is like creating a cypher for English that everyone on SmashWiki is expected to know, including new users who don't have a clue what's up. Do you see how ridiculous it is to ask everyone to be able to understand and coherently use both English and Bilgerd? --Shadowcrest 22:15, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
I hope this is clear enough, because I'm not going to change my signature anymore. Silverdragon706/FyreNWater - (TalkContributions ) 22:21, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
For what it's worth, I think your original sig was fine. {I'm 5280s, and I approve this message.} 22:27, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
(@Shadowcrest) Can you at least concede that sometimes a user is better known by their signed name than their username? I knew about FyreNWater long before I looked up her actual name. Same for RJM. The only reason we don't change usernames is to maintain our contributions list. Let's just say that I always used "Miles.oppenheimer" for everything because I am sometimes forgetful and didn't want to forget my username. Now, I see that I would rather be "5280s" but I want to still use the same account. That's all. {I'm 5280s, and I approve this message.} 22:25, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
If you really care, it would be easier just making a shoepuppet account to solve this than that mess of a signature. In other news: SW:SIGN appears to be a redlink, so you really can't get on his case if he wanted his signature to be something completely irrelevant that changed every time it was viewed.–Entrea Sumatae 22:38, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
@Silverdragon: yes, that's fine by me. It's almost exactly what I would have suggested should the argument have gone further (which, thankfully, it didn't; I've already had multi-day sig arguments twice, a third would have worn me out).
@Miles: If their signed name was their username (at least enough to be immediately recognizable), there would be no discrepancy whatsoever, period. Additionally, while the fact that a signed name might be more recognizable to you, it isn't to me. I think "Silverdragon" and "Randall" and "SmoreKing" when I see their signatures. None of them will ever be "FyreNWater" or "RJM" or "SK" to me, and neither will 5280 equate to miles. I can recognize the idea behind the "change username" argument, though I've always seen it as a flimsy argument. Your contribs are only a link away, after all, and in Silverdragon's case it would only take a day or so to grant her other account her user rights.
@Entrea: I thought about trying to implement it, but decided that it would be recieved poorly. There are so many things in there that 95% of the userbase here does not comply with (with good reason, they haven't seen it) that all the bitching and arguing I'd have to do to get it in wouldn't be worth the time. People generally react poorly to being asked to change their sig (and again Silverdragon I thank you for not QQing/complaining/etc.), and I do honestly not want to spend my time arguing a minute detail (in this case <sup>/<sub>) just to have the general point of SIGN put in.
Also @Entrea: I am highly opposed to registering a shoe and redirecting the name. "FyreNWater" might be an actual account, but it isn't who's making the contributions, and does thus not tell who really made the comment.
@Entrea again: Then I could upload a 800pxx500px image and sign with it and hide behind the face that there isn't a SIGN policy. --Shadowcrest 23:17, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
Since I was mentioned briefly, may I put in input that when Shadowcrest asked me to change my sig, I just went along with it. since then I have been through about 20 signatures. Random, yes, but now I put in actual input on the subject. I frankly don't mind link hovering, and there are some cases where I actually respond better if its an initial or nickname, such as FyreNWater or RJM. I only made my signature SK because I had a few people calling me that, and others asking me if they could call me that for short, so I decided to just make my name SK. I suppose you could argue that that would mean that people like Blue NinjaKoopa or MarioGalaxy should make their signatures BNK or MG. Sorry, kind of rolled off there, but still, I think there should be an official forum or policy about this. Yeah, there's my random input on the subject. Thanks for reading, hopefully.Smore Talk 23:18, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

I created a forum on the matter, that way, we can get many users inputs without flooding Silverdragon(or Rita, or FyreNWater, etc.)'s talk page. The forum is Forum:Signatures.Smore Talk 23:32, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

If I saw this on my talkpage I would be pretty annoyed.-Y462 - (DiscussionWho Cares? ) 07:15, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Some considerations

I understand your position. However, are the deleted tournaments less relevant than Dirty South Tournament (Germany) or Road to Bodio 2? Attendance? Google hits? Searching for Road to Bodio 2 brings up 129 results, but if you go to page 2, it says it's really only 19 pages. Also, our regional scene is organized entirely on orkut.com communities, which are not indexed by Google. Those were the only tournaments ever in the South region of Brazil, and responsible for starting a smash scene where there was none. Maybe the concept of size-popularity-relevance should be scalable according to the location in question—we are a third world country, so obviously even our most popular events will not gather a fraction of what you have in US tournaments. As a matter of fact, the last Brazilian national tournament had less than 70 attendants (partly because most players couldn't afford the trip to Rio), and if you Google it, less than 50 results will show up.

Would it be possible to at least merge all the previously deleted articles into one single entry? Are countries with smaller Smash communities welcome to take part in registering their history in SmashWiki?

by the way... "pure advertisement" is a bit harsh ): , especially because these tournaments were held for the love of Smash, not for the money. Trying to make money with (30ish players * US$2.30 – prizes) ÷ 4 organizers = fail, don't you agree? Lampiaio (talk) 23:00, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

This sounds like an issue that I should probably field. What got deleted? --RJM Talk 01:44, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
Sorry, the "pure advertisement" is a fill-in-the-blank thing I use for all sorts of things. I didn't realize I used that one. What I meant to say was that it wasn't really relevant, as they barely got 1000 hits combined. I suppose you could make a page for all of those related events, though.
As for the articles you brought up, they only bring up about a hundred or so hits each and have both been deleted. Silverdragon706/FyreNWater - (TalkContributions ) 06:17, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
Oh dear....okay, well they shouldn't have been deleted and I'll restore them later but I just don't have the time this morning. Counting Google hits is never an acceptable way to verify notability; as Lampiaio pointed out, tournaments arranged through a social networking service like orkut (or even All is Brawl) may not be searchable by Google's index. L.A.SMASH arranges the bulk of their tournaments through posters in a university and I went to one that had 50 attendees for a doubles tournament that I'd never heard of until it was specifically pointed out to me--the same applies to a couple of communities in eastern Canada. It surprises me, but I still seem to find smash communities that exist independently from the internet. --RJM Talk 15:19, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Deletion log

Rita, I don't know how to permenantly delete a page, or to redirect pages. I merged Chaos Emeralds with Super Sonic, and I deleted everything on the discussion page and article. I know that you can merge, so could you either teach me how to do this or do it for me? Thanks, it would be much appreciated.--Toon GanondorfCHAT 08:12, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

Only users with administrative powers can delete. Basically other people just tag 'em and we come in when we can to take care of them. As for cases like that, you're supposed to redirect them to the new page. Silverdragon706/FyreNWater - (TalkContributions ) 08:53, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

Gee, I bet that your really glad that you're an admin. WHat, did you like work on this thing since you were twelve. God, you're full of yourself.GutripperSpeak if your are worthy

Who the hell do you think your are, you little twerp? Fyre works hard on this wiki, which is more than what I can say for you. Have some goddamn respect. --Toon GanondorfCHAT 06:55, 20 October 2008 (UTC)