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Contents 1 I'm purposed. 2 How to make a redirect link 3 Please stop editing in moves that haven't been officially confirmed 4 edits 5 Your "Proof" 6 hey dont u se the orange ember? 7 Zinnamon's Falco? 8 In depth-smash wikipedia is the 2nd name for Smash wiki. 9 Attn: Zinnamon--Yer makin' a mess, dude! 10 Zinnamon Edited My Page with Incorrect Information 11 hey kid 12 FYI 13 Short block 14 Smasher article 15 Lol (What does "lol" exactly mean by the way?) 16 Chill out for a second 17 Enough. 18 Now you are helping 19 Deletions... 20 S.S.S. 21 Zelebration 22 Stop overdisagreeing me 23 That wasn't difficult right? 24 Thanks for you help but... 25 Stop editting

[edit] I'm purposed.

Hi , i wanna help players to get better in smash and transform smash into a wideworlde gameplay. I will work what it gets to get Smashwiki into most used page.

 Please post here for any new page you want me to do.

[edit] How to make a redirect link

To make a redirect link, add the following template. But first make sure there's NOTHING on the page except the following.

• #REDIRECT [[Name of article you want to redirect to here]]

Hope that helps. :) Magiciandude 16:13, October 13, 2007 (EDT)

Ok, thanks, you and all nice people who help and don't lie are the ones who make me want to help.

[edit] Please stop editing in moves that haven't been officially confirmed

That's not how we do things around here. Please stop. -Thores 17:19, October 13, 2007 (EDT)

Agreed. Speculation on moves is only allowed when said moves have been: 1) shown in screenshots, or 2) explicitly defined by a reputable source's hands-on gameplay impressions. Also, please do not curse anyone on the wiki--in English OR Spanish. -Aeris 11:09, October 14, 2007 (EDT)

[edit] edits

please only make positive contributions. you did remove it yourself, so at least that's good. if you're testing edits, please use the preview button. FyreNWater - (Talk • Contributions ) 17:56, October 13, 2007 (EDT) hey kid, stop adding trivial information and speculation. statistics will not make speculation any less speculative. FyreNWater - (Talk • Contributions ) 18:02, October 13, 2007 (EDT)

Parafrase that please--Zinnamon 18:05, October 13, 2007 (EDT)

stop adding your made-up information. FyreNWater - (Talk • Contributions ) 18:06, October 13, 2007 (EDT)

mmh ok , am i supposed to add it as the Pk Love info¿¿?? cause sorry but i cant go out of there with empty hands.No auto-speculation,identically the same as submitted info it'll be right next to the PK love info. Plz let me ProWikier

No, don't add it as ANYTHING. Do not add this stuff period. Only official information goes in this Wiki. -Thores 18:26, October 13, 2007 (EDT)

mmmm NO—Preceding unsigned comment added by Zinnamon (talk • contribs)

you will stop this or you'll be banned. got it? FyreNWater - (Talk • Contributions ) 19:35, October 13, 2007 (EDT)

I meant that not only official facts are stated dont get mad at me it was just a mistake im "new"at here--Zinnamon 20:08, October 13, 2007 (EDT)

[edit] Your "Proof"

Yes, there are sparks in the first screenshot, but what Lucas is doing is nothing like PK Thunder. There is NOT an ember in the 2nd screen, you're merely being thrown off by the lighting of the Bridge of Eldin stage. And finally, yes, that COULD be a variation of PK Magnet. It could also merely be Lucas's side aerial attack. Sorry, but the only "proof" I see is that you're grasping at straws. -Thores 19:02, October 13, 2007 (EDT)

Guys (and girls) calm down. Look Zinnamon, it's not that we hate you, but the purpose of this wiki is to give information that can be verified. When Super Sonic was first shown, we couldn't just say that it was his Final Smash even if it was very likely. Just wait until more info is given about Lucas, m'kay? Magiciandude 19:07, October 13, 2007 (EDT)I got that point i was just in another. WRONG PROOF it is all (oh and wrong idea of page)

[edit] hey dont u se the orange ember?

Look in the center.

Um, that would be the sun in the background of the stage. -Thores 19:05, October 13, 2007 (EDT)

[edit] Zinnamon's Falco?

What's the point of this article? Let me ask you this, when you register this site, did you read the rules and everything? Just making sure. Magiciandude 19:54, October 13, 2007 (EDT)

jaja , ur revising my history???

im making this article , the point is that Puma is the name all the Porteños (from Buenos Aires) gave to my falco and i redirected Puma to Zinnamon's falco for the ones who are not from Buenos Aires. What rule did i break . Are you against me?

nobody is "against you", we're following rules. things posted must be official. no random personal pages, no articles about your nicknames for characters/items, no in-depth articles covering your personal style. exceptions include accepted nicknames (Shine, DK) and tried-and-true strategies of Professionals. FyreNWater - (Talk • Contributions ) 21:22, October 13, 2007 (EDT)

You know that the purpose of Smashwiki, is to find everything on smash?what if someon hears the word Puma or The Puma so he searches it on wikipedia he must find it even as a redirectory.--Zinnamon 21:39, October 13, 2007 (EDT)

no, the purpose is to list all canon facts, as well as some basic stats about smashers. in-depth stuff is left for your personal website. FyreNWater - (Talk • Contributions ) 05:35, October 14, 2007 (EDT)

[edit] In depth-smash wikipedia is the 2nd name for Smash wiki.

It says that the difference between Wikipedia and smashwiki, is that ALL smash info is submitted while none is denied.

SmashWiki:Smasher Project -- also, signing your comments with four tildes (~~~~) helps make discussion pages easier to read. And also, who are you and who are you to presume that Jiangshadow doesn't wavedash? Just throwing random vandalism on peoples' articles? -- RJM ^Talk 13:07, October 14, 2007 (EDT)

I dont know who he is but it says in the trivia that he is practicing wavedash. That's what it was put.Zinnamon 14:10, October 14, 2007 (EDT)

[edit] Attn: Zinnamon--Yer makin' a mess, dude!

Yo! I appreciate the enthusiasm you've brought to the table in creating so many articles, but please try and follow the basic guidelines laid out in SmashWiki:Smasher Project and look at some of the existing example articles to use as a basis for your own. Your non-standardized and very confusing article formats are not helping the community understand what's going on in the competitive side of Argentina's gaming populace. -- RJM ^Talk 23:35, October 14, 2007 (EDT)

"# (diff) (hist) . . Puma; 20:42 . . Zinnamon (Talk | contribs) (If standard pages following one flow you want im not gonna get into , I ask ur mercy'n forgveness as everyone can make A mess.Though admit Piner is way to cool.JK)"

There's no mercy, I'm afraid. Wikis are community-oriented and community-built. Standardized article formats are a part of the process and if you can't agree to participate with the other contributors, your help will not be welcome and you will only be creating work for those of us who try and keep it readable. Learn to use your talk page, too. Two strikes. -- RJM ^Talk 23:52, October 14, 2007 (EDT)

[edit] Zinnamon Edited My Page with Incorrect Information

He changed my partner from a tourament from B-Run to Gympyfish. I have no idea why he did this, but I've changed it back already. Someone should check to make sure he's not randomly changing other people's pages.

B-Run is Gimpyfish--—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:{{{1}}}|{{{1}}}]] ([[User talk:{{{1}}}|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/{{{1}}}|contribs]])

No, he isn't. Please stop tampering with articles, Zinnamon, you're not learning. -- RJM ^Talk 13:29, October 15, 2007 (EDT)

1- some one put in a melee fight. gimpyfish as ganandorf and its nick ingame was b-run I thought that was correct sorry 2-what is tampering??--Zinnamon 13:40, October 15, 2007 (EDT)

It is tampering, seeing as I build my own page. B-Run is my brother and he is mentioned above in the article with a link to HIS page. Try doing a little research before you screw around with someone else's page. Jump20X6 20:47, October 15, 2007 (EDT)

hey, let's all mellow out a bit. a mistake was made, noted, and it won't happen again. please do not argue about it. FyreNWater - (Talk • Contributions ) 22:39, October 15, 2007 (EDT)

And another thing, gimpy is B-Up. Not B-Run. NeonCrusader 16:01, November 1, 2007 (EDT)

[edit] hey kid

you're really messing things up. think about your edits before you make them. nearly all of your edits are reverted or fixed and the pages you create are on deletion lists. if you keep this up, it looks like a one-way trip to Bansville. FyreNWater - (Talk • Contributions ) 23:53, October 17, 2007 (EDT)

What i did now¿¿--Zinnamon 15:12, October 18, 2007 (EDT)

your edits are constantly being undone and your created pages constantly being deleted. as stated earlier, "You're making a mess." you're probably just trying to help, but your edits really are causing more harm than good. please work on the quality of your edits, do research before changing information (especially on smasher's pages), and be careful of what you change. FyreNWater - (Talk • Contributions ) 19:42, October 18, 2007 (EDT)

[edit] FYI

Yugoslavia is a real country.[1] as before, do research before making your edits. FyreNWater - (Talk • Contributions ) 19:41, October 18, 2007 (EDT)

[edit] Short block

You really want to be a good editor, and I can see that. However, you must follow the guidelines and protocol of SmashWiki as well. Your repeated articles on combos that don't work and are unknown to the community at large are unhelpful. I'm blocking you for just a week, because it's obvious you mean well. But please do try to remember Smashwiki's guidelines. – MaskedMarth ^{(t c)} 15:55, November 6, 2007 (EST)

[edit] Smasher article

Ok that's true, but much people do an smasher article (And I can have my own because I enter in a tournament) --Fandangox 17:18, November 14, 2007 (EST)

Yes you can make your own page and I'm trying to erease the ones that don't need one.

Oh well I'm a a little surprised due to this being the first time that some one complain about it. --Fandangox 17:22, November 14, 2007 (EST)

Actually, your edits have drawn more complaints than any other user, as far as I know. Too many to reference, in fact. --RJM ^Talk 18:51, November 14, 2007 (EST)

[edit] Lol (What does "lol" exactly mean by the way?)

When you said: Yuupi I'm right! I laughted dude, anyway yes you are right, but deleting all those people pages? and RJM is right, some of your edits have indeed cause trouble. (maybe that's why you are trying yo follow the rules at that extreme)--Fandangox 19:58, November 14, 2007 (EST)

Tatanga4Brawl will answer... LAUGH OUT LOUD!!!20:01 11/13/07

[edit] Chill out for a second

Dude, I think you need to chill out for a second. You found one dent in the rules and start making a big deal about it. I won't argue with you the fact that my page and Hydrokyogre's page violate Smashwiki's rules. But going around and telling me to erase my page when only a psyop (sp?) can perform that task and acting like you won some epic battle when you found out from MaskedMarth that non-competitve smasher pages are not allowed on this site tells me that you are taking way too seriously. So just chill out and play it cool. -- The Magnum Master 06:11, November 15, 2007 (EST)

Hey as I told you befor I have entered to a tournament and I'm part of S.S.S., but i forgot to put it in the smasher article so it worths.--Fandangox 15:40, November 15, 2007 (EST)

Oh ya i forgot , if i was u i 'd not keep it but do wat u want . Happens that you seem to say another thing in your page--Zinnamon 15:42, November 15, 2007 (EST)

lile what? and speak... writte clearly. --Fandangox 15:44, November 15, 2007 (EST)

Yes you are right with that it is in the rules, but maskedmarth revised them recently and Its ok to have your own smasher article page if you are part of an well know crew and contributte to the community too.--Fandangox 15:48, November 15, 2007 (EST)

*sigh* No wonder you annoy everyone to hell, Zinnamon. You just never give up don't you? First of all, I am not erasing anything from my page unless it violates this wikis rules. If it does, then I rahter have someone like Fandangox or SilverDragon76 do it since they have much more common sense then you do. -- The Magnum Master 16:24, November 15, 2007 (EST)

[edit] Enough.

Zinnamon, I'm going to say this now, and I'm going to say this blatantly, and I'm going to say this bluntly. You are not improving this Wiki. You have no right to mark other people's pages for deletion, nor do you have the right to edit them with incorrect information. Your edits are usually far from correct, and the pages you made are simply useless. You did not invent the concept of using Z to lightshield or use aerials. There is no such thing as a "Deathly Combo" or your made-up moves for Lucas. I am saying this because your behavior and edits are far from appreciated, and you have started to become a major annoyance to many members. Stop now, or you're going to get yourself banned from the Wiki. Teamrocketspy621 15:49, November 15, 2007 (EST)

If no one knows you, there is no sense on making a page, Hey , what about it? What is the glory of making a page of your own.

Your Mistake:

Because of him never entering an official tournament, he isn't very well-known. He is happy that SSBB will have online battles, but on the other hand, he seems disappointed about the game not having leader boards, so no one can know when he wins or loses.

You wrote this after 2002. When you realised you needed to be in a tourney you advised everyone about the 2002 tournament wich you loss by sudden death.( you need the exact amount of HP and Stocks for Sudden Death ) Before no one knew about it

Look your liying about this? . I also lied please tell me the truth.

First I do not lied, that was a latin american tournament and the price was a game cube, also read the rules and you will se that tournaments create by yourself and with a rank count. and the tournament was a time math. --Fandangox 15:57, November 15, 2007 (EST)

Sorry but what?--Zinnamon 15:58, November 15, 2007 (EST)

Look, I'm a member of s.s.s. that cout for something and the tournament that I enter couts, the only tournaments that doest count are the one that gives t-shirts (i.e E for all event)--Fandangox 16:03, November 15, 2007 (EST)

[edit] Now you are helping

You see? Your las edits: erasing links to Sheik SSBB, Zero suit saum, etc. That's help, no annoying people to erase an article.--Fandangox 16:55, November 15, 2007 (EST)

Well thank you ya but the delete Tag was Super Duperly extremely OK

Duperly?--Fandangox 17:52, November 15, 2007 (EST)

Yup Lol,

If I agree in what? (triple jumps?)--Fandangox 16:24, November 16, 2007 (EST)

Oh that, Neoncrusader said that Egg roll was't a secondary jump, I tell him that it was and that i was going to reverte it, but I wasn't at all sure so I wait until someone more agree with me. (also sing your post with four tildes=~ ~ ~ ~) --Fandangox 17:47, November 17, 2007 (EST)

Ok , I do agree , i mean i put it as a 2nd jump. That NeonCrusader put Jiggs Pound also as 2nd jump 09:37, November 18, 2007 (EST)Zinnamon

Sure, to see other people contribution you just need to see the recent changes, then next to the username there is contributons you click it and that's all.--Fandangox 16:11, November 18, 2007 (EST)

Oh tyZinnamon 18:16, November 18, 2007 (EST)

[edit] Deletions...

Zinnamon, you're going a little overboard on the delete tag. While some smasher articles do need to be pruned, we don't need to be especially on the lookout for unnecessary smasher articles. Wikipedia has a saying, "Wikipedia is not paper." The point is, you don't run out of space on a wiki. The same applies to SmashWiki; there's nothing wrong with smasher stubs. Often, a short smasher articles without any information about tournaments is actually about somebody who is very active in the community. So, please ease off the {{delete}} tags. – MaskedMarth ^{(t c)} 18:39, November 18, 2007 (EST)

[edit] S.S.S.

Zinnamon, Now you are not just beig annoying you are being stupid, look, to a crew to be mentioned here it need at least 4 members and S.S.S. have 40! and the crew have contribute a lot in the smash community. If you want to help, continue doing the little helpful edits that you were doing two days ago, if you havent realized yet putting delete tags doesn't help anyone, but annoy them, so please concentrate in helping the wiki.--Fandangox 20:43, November 18, 2007 (EST)

It's also important to not pull definitions out of nowhere and try enforcing rules that don't exist. Nowhere does it say that a crew has to contain four members. --RJM ^Talk 21:03, November 18, 2007 (EST)

Oh well sorry then.--Fandangox 21:09, November 18, 2007 (EST)

I made no changes on S.S.S.

I said to delete the smasher pages.

Yes, sorry I have just realize it, but they well don't really need to be erased, I mean they help a lot in the forums and that worth something. (and fot the 35 time, please, sing your post with four tildes ~~~~--Fandangox 19:37, November 20, 2007 (EST)

[edit] Zelebration

Whatever i came to say goodbye... to the old and heavy Zinnamon (AS U SAY) I AM concentrated on some things now :

1-people are forgeting the Smash wiki style and are abusing with
a) half-PERSONAL pages
b) nonsensical pages
c) Personal pages not even sensical and SonicMario
d) Personal Crew Pages
e) THE WORST OF ALL Personal Pages with selfinfo
Rule

"an encyclopedic mindset would really just prefer to delete the majority of the articles we see that aren't going to be read by anyone but the writer. However, I am a realist and I recognize that we aren't going to be able to stop people from making their own articles, but we can at least try and tell them how to do it right.

For a smasher or crew to have their own article, they should at least (in my opinion anyway) meet one or more of the following requirements:

Play or have previously played in a competitive tournament. Have created and/or joined an existing established tournament community or crew. Have written or produced an influential smash tutorial or video. If you can't come up with at least one of those criterion for your own smasher article, then there really isn't enough information to warrant wasting the webspace on it. Nobody's going to read it; why write it?

That said, however, I would also like to say that "play or have previously played in a competitive tournament" is a pretty loosely defined requirement. Any tournament where people are there specifically for Smash is completely legitimate regardless of the level of competition. For example, say you and three friends decided to run a tournament and managed to convince 2 other people from your town to come along. Only one of you knows how to wavedash because you're all just learning, but it's still a tournament and it will still have results (not to mention two byes). Congratulations, you've just created a new microcosm of the Smash community in your hometown "

From this 5 matters we are getting insanely to 2500 pages through unwanted cheating ocuppying about 1200 pages . Yes. 1000 Smashers wich 200 should be left . Crews are actually about 200 wich 125 (ABOUT should be left). And unnesecary and idiotic pages .From about 1200 of the left common pages about 1000 should be left. Don't undertake this just 'cause im Zinnamon.

2- people considerating S.S.S. ,R.I.D.L.E.Y. and others are crews.

Well that's it I hope Masked lets my rule ( serve to personal smahers )

Oh besides I found now the SWAE (SmashWiki Abuse Extermination) Members? 2. If you want to join because you are on it with me just tell me (not official just society).—Preceding unsigned comment added by zinnamon (talk • contribs)

I think you are exagerating, and I still cannot understand why SonicMario page should be delete.(for the 3238746328654671254 time, please, sing your posts) you.. you are from argentina right?--Fandangox 18:34, November 22, 2007 (EST)

Zinnamon, it's not hard to sig yourself. Also, i went to the trouble of reverting most of your edits. I appreciate you trying to help out but the majority of your edits are, ironically, nonsensical. I suggest you stop, i mean, you removed Sinma from the VIP category, that alone says something. Lurk moar. --Janitor 18:49, November 22, 2007 (EST)

Zinnamon, I've ranted about this before: Stop making this Wiki what you want it to be. Only edit a page if you're adding info, fixing a typo, or it's your own User Page. Teamrocketspy621 19:43, November 22, 2007 (EST)

You're taking your criticism far too seriously, Zinnamon. The crews are there for a reason, "Tires don exits" has been a traditional fad for quite a long time... There's nothing wrong with the AztecKing page; same with the Ness-Sannin and everything else that you put up as an example. That being said, there are definitely pages that need to be taken care of, but none of which are what you posted. NeonCrusader 00:35, November 23, 2007 (EST)

[edit] Stop overdisagreeing me

U are just getting mad at me and not giving me the reson just cause im zinnamon.

The point of this thread i made was for giving u advice that this isn't good and ur overeacting and making it look like it is good , read the article again and imagine an unkown user made it.

You have to consider the possibility that it's nothing personal and that the vast majority of your contributions are not being accepted by the community because they don't jive with our conventions and are usually very uninformed. --RJM ^Talk 16:48, November 23, 2007 (EST)

For the millionth time Zinnamon, remember to sig yourself with these ~~~~. Jeez. --Janitor 18:57, November 23, 2007 (EST)

[edit] That wasn't difficult right?

Yep! you finnaly learned use this ~~~~. Yes, I like to annoy.--Fandangox 12:18, November 25, 2007 (EST)

[edit] Thanks for you help but...

Try to edit pages you know well enough to edit. For example, =] and the Up smash page. If you wanna be able to edit pages like that, among others, i suggest that you either discuss it first and question it in the talk page or you simply lurk moar. I'm glad that you're trying to help out, but you're not doing anyone any favors if i, as well as others, have to go out of my way to revert your edits.

I have nothing against you personally, it's just your edits are usually either unnecessary, terribly written or they're, well, wrong. --– Janitor ( Talk • Contribs) 18:22, December 3, 2007 (EST)

[edit] Stop editting

You are missing some information vital to editting pages correctly. Please stop. --Simna ibn Sind 22:00, December 11, 2007 (EST)